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Radial Engine project

Discussion in '* Scratch Built Section *' started by kram242, Nov 10, 2009.

  1. kram242

    kram242 Administrator Staff Member

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    Hey guys thought I would share a little project I have been pecking away at on the side (way on the side ) :D
    Its a model of a Pratt radial engine.
    It will be model out of cardboard, foam, and balsa and used as a showpiece for the Phlatbooth
    It will be a slow turning working model that will show case the abilities of the Phlatprinter and hopefully appeal to the guys at the shows
    I will post the plans in the free plans section as soon as I complete it and I know that its working well. Until then I will be posting progress here
    Mark
    Here is the 3D PDF that I am using for study

    I have to say I did not even know there was such a thing as a 3D PDF but its one for the coolest things going! You can even open the model structure tree and hide sections to study the inter-workings.

    Some pics
    [​IMG]

    Where the model is so far


    Test cuts

    Attached files [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] Radial_Engine.pdf (1.1 MB)Â
     
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    ...but if you crank it up to a respectable speed, I bet you could start a FIRE with it! :lol:

    Very cool, Mark. I can picture it now, and I expect it will draw a LOT of attention.
     
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    LOL Thanks Mike :) I think it will get peoples attention.
    When the Balsa Buddy comes out I will have one in plexi as well. That would be cool to see the positions in action!
    Mark
     
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    Pretty cool Mark!
    I didn't know that about PDF's either. That PDF model you posted is awesome.
     
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    Great idea Mark! Now if you can get it to sound just right it should really draw attention.

    I swear your brain is just gonna pop one of these days. :lol:
     
  6. kram242

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    It really is, I think I may have found a plug in that will allow us to create 3d pdfs from sketchup files. Here http://wiki.renderplus.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
    We could make our own! :) there is a trial version
    Thanks guys
    Mark
     
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    Here's another plugin: Simlab 3D PDF from Sketchup http://www.simlab-soft.com/3d-plugins/3 ... -main.aspx

    Also, found out that adobe is using the viewer technology from right hemisphere. http://www10.aeccafe.com/nbc/articles/v ... eid=204216 So if you have adobe pro 7.0 or possibly windows office, then some free software from right hemishphere might do it too, "Deep View" or "Deep Publisher".

    I know the free right hemisphere software can import and view sketchup files directly. But not sure if they can output U3D, which is the universal 3d format in the pdfs? If so, I think there is another method using "miktex" program to do it completely free: http://www.david-laserscanner.com/forum ... .php?t=419

    -Kwok
     
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    Wow great finds Kwok!
    Thank you for sharing, I have some reading to do :)
    Mark
     
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    Ok guys took some pics from last nights build
    Material is 3mm depron
    I have to say I am really happy with the way this project is turning out. It may just work! :shock:
    I love this little thing :D Attached files [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    That engine is looking SWEEET!
    Nice work Mark!
     
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    Thanks brother :D Its been a lot of work but now its rewarding!
    Mark
     
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    Moving right along!
    Well I have the first prototype complete and its working!!!
    I could not believe it when I turned the wheel it really does what it suppose to :mrgreen:
    I will get some video up when I can.
    The pistons are a little too tight they are almost air tight, you can even hear the sucking sounds when they are being pulled in!
    There are a few little changes in the design but other than that its working great!!
    Made entirely of foam and glue sticks
    Mark Attached files [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    I can't wait to see the plane you build for it! <hint, hint> :lol:
     
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    That is sharp Mark!
     
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    looks very cool mark....be cool to stick a barbecue motor in it or some kind of low rpm motor for a working display model. have some red led's going also, to really draw some attention. now i know why your so interested in pouring metal, lols. great job. randy.
     
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    Mark....I love it!!!

    When you post the files I am gonna have to build one for the trailer. That would look cool on the wall, spinning away!!!

    Tim
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    Cool! If it's too tight, maybe some silicon spray lube will do the trick. Or I wonder, if you can actually make it crank backward with some sly compressed air arrangement? Foam air valve, anyone? :)
     
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    :mrgreen: Thanks guys, I have to tell you I am happy with this one and I am hoping that with a few changes it will work even better. I like the idea of casting this out of metal and making it air powered :D I tried a little silicone on one of the pistons and it slowly dissolved the foam :shock: So I have to stay away from that. But maybe something like Vaseline or vegetable oil would help
    Thanks again guys, I am just as amazed as you.
    Let me see if I can get Trish to hold the cam so I can film the turning motion. I am really happy that all the reaches worked out on the first try.
    Mark
     
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    Hum, that's not good. Maybe some talcum power would work as lube? Or you can make piston rings, next time, like they do in a real engine. One thing I would worry about oil, is that dust and stuff will start sticking to it.

    -Kwok
     
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    Good point Kwok. I think the first thing is to re-size them by 1/16" so they can move freely and then if we need to we can try your powder idea. I like that idea best so far.
    Mark
     
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    Mark..I ahve a low speed gear motor that I will send you (with the other stuff I haven't sent yet, lol) provided I can lay my hands on it. It is a slow turning motor for displays in the grocery store, uses 2 "D" cell batts, and already has the battery holder and all, so you can work it into the design.

    I will try to lay my hands on it tomorrow evening, an get all that stuff boxed up and on it's way..

    Tim
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    Tim that would be great! was trying to figure a way to turn this but keep the motor hidden.
    If I can work it into the design like you say it would be perfect!
    Thank you Tim
    Mark
     
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    Oil? That blue dust is pretty slick, like talcum powder for a Smurf! I wouldn't bother with anything extra on there.
     

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