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How much will a gallon of resin print?

Discussion in 'General GB Talk' started by 7up, May 26, 2011.

  1. 7up

    7up Moderator Staff Member

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    Not to jump the gun, but I heard someone on the PhlatLab show ask how many props a gallon of resin would print. Here is a comparison just for reference that may give you a rough idea of how far a gallon might go.

    1 US gallon = 3785 ml (thank you Google)

    The alien head that Mark showed on the show is about the size of a baseball. The guy that printed it said it took about 60ml
    to complete. :doubleup: Attached files [​IMG]
     
  2. 3DMON

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    Awesome! That means a gallon would make 63 of those skulls. That would make a lot of props.
     
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    One thing you folks should know about UV hardened resin, is that it is not very durable.
    There are resins that can be hardened that have ceramic material mixed in.
    After the part is printed it is heat treated to bond the ceramic component of the resin together.
    The result is a very strong part. These resins are very expensive.

    Making propellers using 3D lithography as a replacement part is not a good idea.
    If the resin you use is hard after printing, it will be brittle and the propeller will not be able to withstand shock loads.
    If the resin is somewhat soft after printing, the propeller will stretch a little and be out of balance.
    Which brings us to another problem. No two parts will be the same weight.
    The density of the propeller will not be consistent from point to point within the part.

    What you can do with 3D lithography is make a part that is dimensionally accurate enough to make a mold from, or make a mold with 3D lithography. After you have a mold, there are liquid polymer plastics that you can make extremely durable parts from.

    You can also use 3D lithography to print prototypes for presentation models.
    There is an endless amount of possibilities when it come to 3D lithography.
    Just be mindful of its limitations.

    Hope this helps.
    GHB :D
     
  4. 3DMON

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    Good info George. Thanks.
     
  5. kram242

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    Found this and many more materials that seem to have come a long way in engineering since the days of brittle parts. From what I found you can go from durable plastic like polymers to soft rubber pretty much every shore hardness out there. There are even some with wax introduced into the polymer In some cases I have seen metal that can later be baked to fuse it together.
    Here is a company that produces a lot of different materials and may help to gain a better understanding of what is possible (at least from them) Some are for laser sintering and not sure if they would work on the stereo lithography machines, they may
    http://www.agile-manufacturing.com/3D%2 ... Materials_

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    I found a video where they replace an aluminum injection mold with one that was 3D printed on an assembly line. It works perfect! :)




    SI500
    SI500 is an extremely durable photopolymer that produces parts with mechanical properties similar to those made with ABS plastic, including ultra-smooth surface finish, sharp details and mechanical performance uniform in all directions.

    Materials Performance:

    Tensile Strength: 6240 PSI (43.0 MPa)
    Tensile Elongation at Break: 4.50%
    Flexural Strength: 8740 PSI (60.2 MPa)
    Flexural Modulus: 263 kSI (1810 MPa)
    Hardness: 86D
    HDT (0.45 MPa): 132.3 F (55.7 C)
    HDT (1.82 MPa): 116.3 F (46.8 C)
    Prototypes built with SI500 are typically used for the functional evaluation of plastic part designs. Applications range from simple ergonomic evaluations to stringent system performance tests because uniform mechanical properties rival the performance of injection molded parts. In addition, the material flexibility of S1500 accurately reproduces snap fit features for design evaluation.

    I see the pricing going down in the future as the market becomes more competitive :)
     
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    Mark that is a nice post. :shock:
    I think I need to get current on 3D litho.
    Thanks for the info. :cool: :doubleup:

    GHB :D
     
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    Your welcome George :) Its awesome to see all the different materials out there now. I remember going to a trade show and getting a 3D printout from a powder based machine and it is very brittle. Comparing the materials they have for the lithography machines is just unreal.
    Mark and Trish
     
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    Process and formula of a resin

    Prepare polymer (100ml)

    Mass .006 g of Sudan I, Mass 2.00 g of phenylbis(2,4,6-trimethylbenzoyl)-phosphine oxide, measure 98 mL of 1,6-Hexanediol dicrylate


    Mix all three components in 100 mL amber bottle. Add stirbar, put on stir plate gently mixing, allow to mix for a minimum of three days to allow all chemicals to dissolve

    (https://www.nano-cemms.illinois.edu/mat ... nting_full)

    Another Resin

    Absorbers/blockers:

    http://talasonline.com/photos/instructi ... vin292.pdf

    http://www.mayzo.com/uv-absorbers.html

    http://b2b.cytec.com/specialty-chemical ... UV5411.PDF
     

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