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Don't see much 3D printing here, if anyone still is

Discussion in 'General Talk Forum' started by 66tbird, Jul 3, 2014.

  1. 66tbird

    66tbird Moderator Staff Member

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    I took the plunge, pulled the trigger, coughed up the cash and bought Simplify3D slicing software without a trial first. If your being limited by your slicer, or accompany software because its a total pain to use and your prints are just not top notch even though the hardware is running smooth this was my solution.

    I had five different programs to solidify, slice, place, view gcode, and convert files in order to message an STL into something that made a print good enough to except cash for. I must of had ten profiles in each program to cover all the projects I bid on. Then I met a guy that had printed an inverted Weeble Wobble that really worked. It was printed denser on the pointed end and it stood on that end. It was a single print and not pieced together.

    The guy that made it knew of my work and figured I used S3D already. I'd only read a little in passing and the 140 clams was more than I wanted to risk. Well he gave me the quick highlights with examples and it's been more than a time saver. It's like getting a whole new type of machine.

    I've been trying to print a EP DLG size fuselage for months but it was to heavy at 1.6mm wall thickness and any thinner it would separate for any number of reasons. With S3D I just did an awesome three piece print at 1.23mm that is so smooth it looks vapor treated and plenty light and strong enough to handle the 100 watts I'll hang on it. No tweaking of the software per say on that print. But being to print different objects with different infill densities, different layer heights, and different speeds all in one print is awesome.

    Just FYI
     
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    I've been 3D printing for a while now. I've been looking at S3D too, but haven't pulled the trigger. I used SLic3r It appears to work, but I do have the seperation issues. (2 examples attached). No real biggie on non-functional parts, but I can't seem to make a functional part. I tried updating SLic3r with no change. So does the slicer program really make that much of a difference?
     

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    I use mine all the time. I don't know why Mark got rid of the 3dprinting section here.
    I have heard that the S3D software is nice but after I got hosed on buying into that file2part garbage software from Kickstarter I've been reluctant to put money into another software. I use Repetier host/slicer and I am for the most part happy but I can't stand the way it does supports so most of the time I make my own. I get the boken layers sometime but playing around with the temps usually fixes that.

    I'd like to see some of your prints Tbird showing off that S3D software.
     
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    I'll get something up soon. Lately everything I've made is going out in the mail same day. It's only after I seal the package that I remember I should of taken a picture. My EP DLG fuse is drying after a vapor session. I'll get it tomorrow.

    For the longest time I couldn't get the STL repair and manifold functions to work. No big deal for me because I'm back to Solidworks as my primary drafter. But the other day I read the S3D instructions on the subject and found I wasn't saving the fixed work and viewing that.:oops:

    I also did the different infill density and shell count thing on a plate full of chess pieces. Every piece had a little different tweak I wanted to use, including dropping a magnet in the bottom of each at the 1mm mark. Worked soooo nice it's scary. I'm NDA'd on that project otherwise I'd share.
     
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    Do you (or did you) have problems with layer separation?
     
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    I rarely had layer separations in repG and only on thin walled vertical builds. Seemed to be more of an extruder issue really, and poor filament. Now slicer, Makerware, and Repeiter I have never been able to compile code with without a mess of tweaking. RepG was a simple run it through, drop onto SD, put in printer, hit go. For the most part rare print issues in repG were solved with placement orientation because the way repG does support. Now repG is only for tiny little parts like thumbnail size gears and such. S3D doesn't seem to do tiny. Guess I could scale then rescale:banghead:. Here's a 14hr print very hot off the plate(20sec) with little clean up.(just what fell off) All of the side holes have support that needs removal. IMG_0401.JPG IMG_0402.JPG
     
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    I had the same issue with slic3r. I thought it was trying to push my travel speeds to high at times and a hardware skip would occur. Some people swear by the program and I've seem good stuff come off a Delta type machine. But I could not get consistent results with it.
     
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    Nice looking print @66tbird ! I also have been using s3d for a while and like it as well
     
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    I wish s3d had a try before you buy. I already got burned on that file2print kickstarter garbage software and just can't bring myself to pay for it unless I see it work on my machine.
     
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    I went for that one too Shaun (file2print) but I can tell you you will like s3d it really nice software that gets the job done without issues.
    Mark
     
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    Go for S3d it's well worth the features. Plus it prints sooooooo nice. Support just falls off, I could rave for an hour on this software. Here's a project I'd been trying to print for a long time. Not till S3D could I get the wall thingness down to .75mm and still have bullet proof prints. I'll get pics of the next one because these are going out the door as fast as I make an update. It's still not good enough for me and I've got a floater to tie me over till I nail this ship. Specs: It's a full on 1.5M DLG wing (light version of the Edge) Tapered carbon spiral boom, 15gr V tail, c-20 outrunner(130w) on a 6x3 folder using a 3s-460. 4gr servos on the V tail and 6gr metal on the ailerons. I'm confident I'll get 11 oz AUW That's with a fully removable boom and tail. It's all held with nylon 6-32 hardware. My 9oz 1M floater rockets vertical on the systems effortlessly. 3 second runs and I'm 120ft. 20+ climbs/bat.
     
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    Awesome DLG fuse Tbird.
    Do you have a thread on RCgroups about this one?
     
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    Not yet. Kind of waiting till it's all done and I can do a semi good job at presenting it. Problem is I'm so hit and miss with time. I did dowel the wing today and it seated perfect. Balance is going to be a little shy so I'm going to add a spacer between the canopy and wing bulkhead next print. I max Z is 6 inch and I need close to 8.

    Here is a neat part that worked well. It's a two piece V tail to boom mount held together with nylon 2-56 bolts (tapped). The V tail fins will break before the unit will twist on the tapered boom. Push rods through the center. I did it because I'm not happy with the look of the tail and may want to change it. tail2boom clmp rear.jpg tail2boom clamp.jpg
     
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    Nice modeling skills. Seems like a neat project.
     
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    @66tbird What are you modeling in SU? Its looks great. :doubleup:
     
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    Thank you both for the compliments. I had to switch back to Solidworks from SU because as my drawings got more complicated SU would constantly crash every 5 min and complicated Bolean operation were iffy at best even when I through the work around book at it. I even had the pro version too. In the end SU is not an engineering tool, it's an architectural aid. It took the development team to tell me that and I switched.

    I still use SU for the SketchUcam because honestly nothing works better at this level.
     
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    I would like to have Solidworks to play with as SU is a pain when doing complex stuff. I do manage but you are right...it's more for architectural.
     
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    It looks like the student version is $150 for one year, or am I reading that wrong? I'm sure I could convince my son he needs to at least look at it ;)
     
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    The software is free, rcav8r, it's the T-shirt and poster that cost $150. :rofl:
     
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    Printing the final revision is in process. I'll take pictures for sure.
     
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    I've been using Cura since Repetier host added it as a slicer option and I am really happy with it. My parts are coming out so much better.
     
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    I like the look of Cura but have not tried it too much. I should give it a go.
    Mark
     
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    I tried Cura a little but I couldn't get passed the curve.

    Just off the printer and weighing 3.25 oz before support removal. And there is a lot of support so I'm hoping for less than half that weight. I didn't picture the fuse joiner rings because the wind blew them out of frame. IMG_0413.JPG
     

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